The strongest form of Martial Art
A lot of people ask , What is the best Martial arts sports , or what is the strongest martial art form or even what is the martial arts that will make you defeat all other in a fight .
Well … There is no direct answer for this question , because this question depend on many factors and each martial arts has it own specialisation .
Let’s take Aiikido , when you see a person attacked by more than 6 people and he throw them all by just some move , you say : i want to train Aikido and become like him .
I already tried the Aikido and it’s a sport that i do respect a lot , it’s a very strong form of Martial arts used more in self-defence and body guarding issues .
Can you compare it to Thai-boxing ? NO ! Well you can but not in term of who is better …
What i don’t like in people or “Trainer” is that when you ask them what martial art sports is better (ex: Muay Thai or Aiikido ) if he is a trainer of Muay Thai he will tell you ” Muay Thai ” , if he’s a trainer of Aikido he will say “Aikido” … That’s totally wrong
Another point , if there is a fight between a Thai boxer and taekwondo , the winner of the fight don’t prove anything , it just could mean that a person is stronger than another person on the ring (this could change on the street) .
In my point of view (UFC - Ultimate Fighting Championship - Mixed martial arts) is getting more and more popularity because of the points mentionned above.
If you dident know what is Mixed martial arts :
Mixed martial arts (MMA) is an intense and evolving combat sport in which competitors use interdisciplinary forms of fighting that include jiu-jitsu, judo, karate, boxing, kickboxing, wrestling and others to their strategic and tactical advantage in a supervised match.
Ok … Time for some entertainment
Fight between Thai-boxing Muay Thai and Taekwondo
March 19th, 2006 at 9:33 pm
I don’t agree with your point that martial arts can’t be compared which is better.
Quote from your statement “Another point , if there is a fight between a Thai boxer and taekwondo , the winner of the fight don’t prove anything , it just could mean that a person is stronger than another person on the ring (this could change on the street) .” I wonder what do you think about what makes a fighter “strong”? In the clips that you put above, it shows that a TKD guy don’t know nothing about a less rules ring fight, he get too used to TKD rules fight.
That TKD guy don’t know how to defend himself from a low roundhouse kick without knowing that he needs to defend the roundhouse kicks. In this case, I think TKD limited that Koren guy’s mind and his view of fighting. In other words, TKD weaken that Koren guy. He keep on sidekicking and keep on eating RH kicks.
Nevertheless, take a look at the thai fighter. He trained under a less rules fighting system ” Muaythai” which makes him a more complete fighter, and this is what making muaythai a “stronger” art.
Martial arts not only bringing techniques to people, but also a point of view of what the hell fighting is, so if an art teach you SHXT, then you will fight like SHXT——– like that TKD guy——
Good luck, friend
March 19th, 2006 at 10:40 pm
Thank’s for your reply
For me it’s not the martial art “ name ” which make a fighther stronger , it’s the training and dedication for what he’s doing and training for .
You are right in some of what you said , if a person is not trained to defend his self from some attack that a +1pts to the other martial arts , but that just a point , there is a lot of other points that we should consider before saying that a type of martial arts is better than another .
March 20th, 2006 at 6:04 pm
Without (hopefully) upsetting anyone…usually it’s the fighter that triumphs not the art (without disrespecting anyone’s art). Speed, skill, strength, reflexes, courage, alertness, training, stamina and luck determines who wins not necessarily the art itself. One martial art is not necessarily better than any other. Let’s see, I got hit by a Muay Thai fighter and it hurt and I got hit by a Karate fellow and it also hurt too. A Sombo wrestler also demonstrated on me and it too was painful. My point, if you somehow happen to be better or luckier that day, you mostly likely will win otherwise, you’d probably lose.
Regards,
Zaroslobov
May 10th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
“Another point , if there is a fight between a Thai boxer and taekwondo , the winner of the fight don’t prove anything , it just could mean that a person is stronger than another person on the ring (this could change on the street) .”
The statement about is true that street fighting could change. The most important point is thai boxing is not sport, it is art for killing people. From my experience, I have learnt both of them. It shows me that Taekwondo is extremly weaker than thai boxing. This is because you must build your solid muscle and technique at the same time. You learn how to protect all weaken part in the body by using strong part, so this makes thai boxers have time to see open point on the component bady. Thai boxer’s bone is super strong. People who become profession thai boxer, need train from young ages.
May 10th, 2006 at 11:14 pm
In the video clip, you can see that thai boxer didn’t use all the technic as such punching, elbows, knees and hugging. If Thai boxer used these technic, Taekwondo would be killed. you guys think about it
May 13th, 2006 at 4:05 pm
Dudesies… wow, that taekowndo got totally rap*d by that thai boxer. I just cant believe it. Its really just ridiculous. No matter how you look at it, thai boxing is not only more complete, but superior. I mean wow, that guy got rap*d, and i admit it even though Im korean, how can i not? shiot!
June 9th, 2006 at 2:00 am
Well well, this is a debate which tends to never end. I can tell all you guys right now that every fighter has a chance to win. I am a MMA fighter. I do muay thai and jujitsu. I can tell you right now that I beleive I am a complete fighter, but anyone who practices an art longer then me can probably beat me. Basically, dedication and years spent training CAN be the difference between arts. Also, under TKD rules a TKD fighter would beat a muay thai fighter. Under Muay Thai rules, the thai fighter would clean house. That said, I do beleive that Pride/UFC represent a true fighting arena. You wanna know what is the best martial art? Well first you have to find out what your looking for. Alot of posers want to know how to do buncha fancy kicks. For them, you are lookin for the true “art” in martial arts. In my eyes, thats where this whole problem starts. There’s a lot of impractical martial arts out there. Not to insult any of them, but in a cage/ring id like to see them hold up. Secondly you gotta train like no other. Remember, Bruce Lee made Jeet Kune Do, not the other way around. The greatest fighters in the world made the martial art what it is and passed it on. So, basically find the most practical art u can find. The art is very important, and so is the practicailty of the art. Find one that suits your balance of both.
July 12th, 2006 at 11:04 pm
I like Thai boxing, I think it’s a cool form of martial arts. I have just seen a video of a fight lately by Kimbo Slice and I just can’t believe it, that guy is so powerful, it’s scary.
September 8th, 2006 at 2:58 pm
AND VISA VERSA IVE SEEN A VIDEO ON GOOGLE WHERE THIS LIL GUY DOIN TKD BEATS UP THIS TALL STICK LIKE GUY DOING THAI. ILL ALSO SAY THAT THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL TKD JUST WTF WHICH IS IN MY POINT THE CRAPER VERSION ITF IS LESS COMPETITION BASED AND STRONGER IN MY OPINION ALTHO ITS THE PERSON NOT THE STYLE.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:17 am
am a taekwondoin although i do it since 4 years ago and still in green belt.i like TKD kenjutsu wushu and Muay Thai.the strongest MA is its dedication and the honor for each MA…don’t ever think that you’re the strongest. there is noone become the stronger if he understimate the others MA.keep the brother!!!!!
November 2nd, 2006 at 2:46 pm
I like beating up Thai players their so easy, they master 4 hits and if u hit them with anything out of their box they taste the floor like street punks that they are and break them like toothpicks arm by arm. Black belt Brazilian jiu jitsu
so dont mess with poor MA’s that are artistic, wanna be a big boy come play with the big boys and see how ur cry for ur mamies u silly punks
November 12th, 2006 at 8:45 pm
I think all martial arts are the same. They’re just an art. It’s a style that one follow and practice. It all depends on the practicener. how hard and how delication he/she practice. More importantlyis how much guts does he or she has when comes to fighting. One NOT afraid to die will usually win. PS. I practiced and a 4th dan TKD and still practacing 3 to 4 times a week.
November 18th, 2006 at 12:18 am
doesn’t prove much. the muay thai guy is physically stronger than the TKD guy.
December 2nd, 2006 at 8:39 pm
WHAT IS THE STRONGEST FORM OF MARTIAL ART ,ONE VS ONE .
BRAZILIAN JU-JITSU NO WEAKNESS
December 4th, 2006 at 9:16 am
MA is for protection and strengthening oneself..
Competition is just a competition…it proves the athelete who wins…not the art….
PS:Buakaw wins the K1 max twice..that proves muay thai is good..but nothing can be proven the best…
it depends on the one who practises..
December 24th, 2006 at 7:19 pm
i don’t think that it is even objective to argue this.
I have trained in Tae Kwon Doe and Muay Thai and it is a world of difference. TKD is a sport and an art.
Yes it can be used to defend oneself but it is not very effective. Let’s say you take a 10 yr old and train them ten years in TKD vs taking that same 10 yr old and trainning them in Muay thai and see who is going to win the fight. Without a question it will be the Muay thai fighter.
The whole principal of Muay thai fighting is to beat someone’s ass with everything at your disposal: knees, elbows, punches, kicks. TKD focuses on forms (which are pretty useless when it comes to fighting) and sparring (which TKD sparring is fast and pretty but it not powerful and efficient).
with regards to BJJ, it’s an essential if you one to fight in UFC but once you know how to defend against it your stand up fighting becomes more important.
Notice how all the big UFC champions today are the top stand up fighters.
March 12th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
It was proven for many years that, muay thai is the toughest fighting over all
so many karate, Taekwondo fighters were beaten by muay thai fighters. When Im here in Korea, I see only young kids learn Taekwondo and real figheters train muay thai
reality was proven long time ago
March 13th, 2007 at 1:39 am
I had practise many kinds of martial arts but the most powerfull one is the muay thai since it helps me to get out of every situation
March 23rd, 2007 at 4:04 am
To be an Ultimate fighter, you got to:
- train your body to be so strong and so fast and so flexible
- train your mind to have the fastest reflex it could have, and to be aggressive in fighting
- learn the concept of all the martial arts existing
- train on more then one martial arts like (thai, karate do or wushu, ikido or jujudsou) this combination of martial arts is really lethal, because you will learn to face the opponent in any condition of distance
So, regarding to these criteria, there no way that, martial arts, can build an ultimate fighter. Only training, persistency, knowledge can build the ultimate fighter, what ever the art is been learned.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:28 am
Sumo all the way
If you train in sumo you can beat almost anyone
March 29th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
sumo. lol. thats true. sumo mothafuckaz would kill anyone…….. i mean… yeah muay thai and tkd foolz got flashy moves but imagine gettin caught by one of those sumo wrestlers…… no chance.
May 10th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
it’s not the art that makes it superior it’s the martial artist and thats all i have to say.and just kick the sumo wrestlers in the groin and they’re down in minutes
May 18th, 2007 at 10:35 pm
… first of all.. i take tkd and that guy whos fighting sucks… I dont know why hes on tv but this is starting to get humiliating. Also, i take 3 kinds of martial arts (tkd, kendo, and Kungfu) and i dont see the point in fighting.. IF YOU GOTTA GUN AND KNOW HOW TO USE IT, YOU WIN. end of story.
May 26th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
… By the way the tkd guy in the video was only a red belt…. He is a horrible representation of tkd, get a 7th dan black belt…
May 27th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
I think experiance is key not form, I’ve seen a kid in my school 3 dan karate blackbelt, get knocked out by this guy who never took a course but fought alot at school so knew what to look for.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:50 am
In my opinion, Muay Thai, Burmese letwei, Khamar boxing are more practical and less complex. In the ancient time, they fought on the streets without protecting equipment and strict rules. Some competitors were died by fatal blow of knee and elbow. These southeast asian arts are stronger, more scientific. However it is not real sport like western boxing. TKD was just developed after second world war.
Late Bruce Lee said, rules and rigid forms are useless in real fight. If you want to win, you have to use all body parts including your mouth. Speed, physical and metal touchness and experience will decide the outcome of fight.
TKD is just a good looking sport with fancy movement. It has some dynamite kicks. In the close contact, it is really useless.
It is also true that Muay Thai will not beat easily beat the Sumo wrestler because of weight and size difference. Most Thai boxers are light weight and it is unfair for them to match with such a super heavy weight.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 am
muay thai is just a deadly self defence, but most people consider it a offence, take buakaw(not his real name) he has so much respect from so many people.. taekwon do aint shit even lv 7 dan black belt, what the fuck is with levels man, this aint no video game.. bet none of you know were karate first originated? tell me.. it originated in the ryukyu islands, okinawa.. people call them selfs masters of martial arts, but martial arts aint all about mastering it, you have t have the knowledge to fight with it, and yeah im proud to say im a true martial arts master, ill tell you anything send you my training videos of any martial arts style.. muay thai, thai boxing, bando, shoot boxing, kickboxing, jiu jitsuu, tae kwondo, karate, etc… anything name it.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
The truth is in the killing.
You know, honestly, this debate has been going on since Man first figured out his first martial (combative expression) combination. If one uses common sense, they can resolve this debate within their own minds before sounding silly in front of others. Part of being a philosopher however is learning through debate. So we continue.
Is there a more effective and a less effective way of walking? Yes, we all know this right? If you try to walk one leg shorter (considerably) than the other, will you not stumble? Of course you will. If you want to walk to the mail box, do you circle your house twice prior? Of course not.
My point is simple: The most direct and violent application will always defeat the less direct and “fluffed” appliction. Muscle memory is important, and you fight the way you train. Train hard, train daily, and learn the most effective way, YOUR body moves (and therefore, fights).
Happy journey my friends
October 2nd, 2007 at 8:44 pm
well id have to say muay thai prob is more intense then tkd , ive got a friend who went to tkd maybe 7-10yrs ive gone to muay thai 4months nd i culd easily destroy the answer is simple, muay thai u condition and its very agressive tkd is all about scoring points and protection is padded so much so when they actually gt hit on the street der like wtf becuz dey arent used to hits im not saying tkd is bad im juz saying id rather muay thai anyday becuz of de way of training
January 23rd, 2008 at 5:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL9ZXos8LfQ&feature=related
it all depends on the fighter..
a fight between a tae kwon do fighter and a muay thai fighter.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
nice video.
i live in thailand
and where you live you have different ways of fighting, of course the top fighters and well schooled in all forms
up here in chiang mai they tend to produce boxers with very fast hand speed and exstensive use of elbows.
issan thailand- northeast tough hardnosed defensive fighters
south thailand great at kicking …most fun to watch if a bit bloody
bangkok. tend to produce all around fighters as many in bangkok are from other parts of the country
keep in mind to the Thais it is a sport pure and simple, and also not just the pros but most men know at least some muay thai..much like most amercians know something about baseball
why i tell my friends who visit dont pick fights with the locals…they are nice folks and wont hurt you but persist..say hello to a long hospital stay
June 9th, 2008 at 10:20 am
i’m thai fighter and i’ll just tell you what makes muay thai stronger then other ma : 1rst the thai boxer is most of the time fixed in his place unlike tkd and all those MA with flying kicks wich makes there leg breaking really easy for us , bit to jujistsu , a jujitsu fighter is stronger on the ground than standing , here lays both fighter techniques cos if the thai fighter testes correctly his opponent and analyses his techniques he would know how to keep him in a distance or crush him on short distance with elbows and knees!
2nd a thai fighter muscles are much more develloped than others even if fighters have slim body in u’re eyes but they could support a lot of pain due to hard training !
3rd a thai fighter has very simple moves that what makes it faster in hitting his opponent or defending himself by very accurate and simple blocks !
but the difference in the kick between a muay thai fighter and a tkd or shao lin or … is the movement of the hips! here lays the little secret ! because the hips and the fighter legs always layig on the ground gives the kick much more power in thai tecnique than in other ma !
But all the difference in a fight is not if the fight is going on the streets or on the ring , (cos i’v tried both) its with guts and the balls that the fighter have and its technique and the concentration to stay focus because when u are on the ring 80% of u’re power is lost by stress and same for u’re pain !
T c all of u and stay out of trouble